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Lone Wolf Sit & Climb Review.

by Scott Abbott 8. May 2009 13:22
Scott Abbott

After arriving home with the new stand, the very first thing I did after opening the box was weigh the stand to see if their advertised weight matched my scale. According to my scale, the stand weighed 19 pounds rather than the 18 they claim. May be my scale.... May not be? To close to tell and not enough difference to worry about anyhow.

First impressions.... There was paint finish rubbed raw in a few places straight out of the box on the platforms section... Not excessively bad but ware none-the-less. The factory seat I did not really care for, it just wasn't very comfortable to me.   I also did not care for the low back of the seat.... So, before going any further I decided to swap the LW seat out with a new Summit replacement seat.  This was a tremendous upgrade in comfort to me.  The next upgrade was adding the Lone Wolf foot rests to the stand and padded backpack straps from Gray Wolf Woolens (backpack straps not pictured).

This photo shows the stand in the backpack configuration with the modifications I did to it, including a set of Lone Wolf foot rests and the new Summit seat.

Side view with the stand folded down into the pack position. It folds down rather nice. I was actually really surprised how well the stand packed and balanced on my back.... I would give the balance and pack-ability of the stand a 10 out of 10!

Front view of the stand attached to the tree including the extra Lone Wolf foot rests. The foot rests are a solid addition and definitely worth the $20 and 5-10 minutes to install them. They will really help relieve pressure on the back of your legs.

A view of the cam buckles and traction belt on the platform. They are both very silent and easy to use, much more so than the set up on my Summit Cobra XLS. My Summit does however have more cable length than the Lone Wolf allowing me to climb larger diameter trees... As pictured this climber has it's traction belts out to the maximum safety zone.

Here is a close up of the platforms "teeth" section on a Red Oak.

Front view of the climbing portion including the new Summit seat. Looks comfy doesn't it.... That's because it is!

A view of the climbing portions framing, cam buckle and traction belt. I will say the folding sections of this stand can be a PITA until you get used to it... They like to bind up if you are not careful while folding the sections flat for backpacking or unfolding for use.  After a few uses though it is a piece of cake.

 

Overall impressions... With the modifications the stand is very comfortable for long sits and still lightweight..... The platform is very silent which was one of the key selling features for me. The stock backpack straps are acceptable but as I mentioned earlier, I upgraded to a padded set from Gray Wolf Woolens for the long walks in.

The Sit & Climb backpacks and balances like a dream... MUCH better than any climbing stand I have ever used... Really no contest in my opinion. The stand feels considerably lighter than it is because of how high and tight it rides on your back.  This is the stands best attribute and as I said earlier, I have never packed any climber that can rival this ones comfort.

My biggest complaint out of the box is the shortness of the traction belts.... I did however purchase a set of Lone Wolf's XL traction belts to give me a little more room to play on the larger trees.   I feel this is an unreasonable expense to have to upgrade, the stand should come standard with the longer belts.

Even with the modifications (adding the new seat, padded back pack straps, XL traction belts and foot rests) the stand still only weighs 19 pounds and that is excellent considering it is now as comfortable as my old Summit but much more silent and backpacks considerably better.

Overall, out of the box I think it is a good stand with tons of potential to be a great stand..... With some extra money (on top of an expensive stand to start with) a little bit of work and time I made it into my ideal climbing treestand.... Silent, comfortable and lightweight.

 

Comments

Comments

5/12/2009 3:34:29 PM #

Don Eime

For the money that sucker costs though......There should be NO reason for modifications, especially the seat......IMO.  I've not really heard much good about this stand, especially given the cost.

Great review man......Does look like it has some pros and not all cons....

Don Eime United States |

5/12/2009 4:56:43 PM #

Scott Abbott

Don,

What may be unacceptable to me may be just what the next person desires.  There is just a certain set of features my "perfect" stand must have.  No stand on the market offered me all the things I was looking for (not even close).  So I chose the base stand that fit my criteria the best and added and swapped parts and accessories until I had the stand that was perfect for me.

This stand is slim, trim, quiet and painless to pack and setup.

Scott Abbott United States |

5/12/2009 4:58:01 PM #

Scott Abbott

To add...

I bought this stand last spring, not this year.  I have a full year of using this setup under my belt now.

Scott Abbott United States |

5/12/2009 8:29:28 PM #

Don Eime

Dude, respect for "making it your own" and I give high points for inventivness......And I understand your point....There probably is no PERFECT stand.....granted.  And if I already had the stuff it wouldn't be so bad.......But man, that sucker is one of the most expensive climbers on the market.  The comfort of the seat has been one of the biggest complaints I've heard about that stand, and not just on the forums.

I'm just sayin for a stand that is as expensive as that one is..............

I dunno, maybe I just have too much of the "it is what it is" attitude and I just roll with it........Maybe I don't put enough emphasis on making it "perfect"........Just a difference in general attitude towards it I guess...

Don Eime United States |

5/12/2009 9:55:45 PM #

Scott Abbott

I agree that it is a pricey stand, likely overpriced. They (Lone Wolf) have the patent on a cast molded platform so if you are looking for that feature, they make you pay top dollar for their technology.  

My last stand, a Summit Cobra XLS I had for around 10 years and do not see why I won't get 10 years out of the stand as well.  When you spread the cost of the stand and any upgrades out over a 10 year period you really aren't paying that much per year of use.

I have less money in my climber than I do a bow set up.  I don't keep my bow for 10 years like I do a climber though.  A lot of people won't think twice dropping $1200 on a bow setup but wont put extra money into something as important as their treestand. I find that odd.

Scott Abbott United States |

5/13/2009 5:04:35 PM #

Justin Zarr

Great review Scott - and a lot of great points.  While I agree that LW stands are a bit on high side when it comes to price, their quality and value in the field is unmatched IMO.  You simply can't put a price on quality, security, ease of use, and silence when it comes to bowhunting.  Like you said, we spend thousands of dollars on other pieces of equipment and the gear we carring into the field and use for 1-2 seasons, why should we grimace so much at the thought of spending that much on an item that can make or break your success, and that we will use likely for many seasons.

Justin Zarr United States |

7/12/2009 12:02:47 PM #

Frank

I just bought the Sit and Climb Wide model. I like the platform and the way it packs. I am not crazy about the seat. I may switch the seat to the summit seat. Thanks for the idea. Frank in NC

Frank United States |

7/26/2009 1:02:00 PM #

David Mason

Great review.  I was going to buy the sit and climb, but changed my mind to go with the Alpha Assault and climbing sticks.  Nothing to do with the review, I tried it out and found that I could get up and hang an assault as fast as a climber, it's lighter and more versatile (IMHO).  Plus the LW sticks fit into the base making it flat on your back and only 16 pound with 3 sticks.  If I were to go with a climbing stand.. the LW alpha no question.  I thought about a Summit.  Solid stand, but the one piece LW platform is key.  The fewer welded parts the better.  A weld can give at any moment, a one piece platform should last until I get tired of it.  You can't buy safety, even if it's in your mind its worth the cost.  For all the complaints about the price of LW gear....... I never hear about poor quality, paint chipping, rusting, squeaking or platform safety recalls.  You get what you pay for.  When I go out in the woods priority one is to come home as healthy as I left and number two come home with some meat.  There is a big gap between number one and two.  I'll pay and sacrifice some comfort for number one!

David Mason United States |

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I'm glad this tool worked out for you.  Thanks for the great review, hope to see more from you soon.

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8/13/2009 5:53:31 AM #

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Interesting review, it is rather costly but I suppose that this is not a very cheap sport.

Amy Wagner | Hunting South Africa |

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That looks very interested but if you purchase that thing do you get directions as how to assemble it to the tree,even if it only cost a nickle it looks very uncomfortable I wouldn't even think of buying that.

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